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Post by Romagoth on Dec 22, 2016 14:50:28 GMT -5
I looked around here but was unable to find anything regarding this topic.
I am trying to sign a few of my draft picks whose rights expire at the end of 2019 season (about 2 months from now in game time iirc). The game, however, will not allow me to sign my prospects who play in the KHL. I understand the real life issues between the two leagues, but am I just out of luck with these players at this point? If so, why even bother drafting players in the KHL at all? Is there some type of compensation I can receive or something? I have several players rights who I can't sign.
Also, I have several other players that the game says I can only sign between June 23, 2019-August 31, 2019. I have never heard of this before, is this something new in the latest CBA? These are players the former GM drafted (as are the ones in the KHL) and these are in Canadian Juniors. Their rights expire on June 30, 2019 which means I only have one week to sign them before those rights expire. Seems kind of odd to me.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Post by bjernagris (PHI) on Dec 22, 2016 21:08:26 GMT -5
Hi Matt,
Thanks for bringing this up and good to see that you are on the ball already!
The issue with players in Russia who's rights expire the same season that their contract is up has been brought up before, and we decided the following:
If the player's contract expires the same year as their NHL player rights, and the player has not signed an extension with their Russian team at the date of the iNHL Entry Draft (around June 22nd each year), the player will be manually released from their Russian team, and the iNHL team holding the player rights will get the chance to sign that player in the file being released after the draft. However, if the player has signed an extension with their Russian team at that point, this signals their intention to continue playing in Russia, and the player will not be made available for their iNHL team to sign.
Regarding prospects, as in the real NHL they can only be signed in the offseason. There will be an opportunity in the file released after the draft (in-game date of June 23rd) to sign prospects. Normally they do sign, unless they for some reason want to stay in college or in Europe (some players do).
I hope this clarifies things! Please reach out if you have further questions.
Cheers Björn
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Post by Romagoth on Dec 22, 2016 21:30:00 GMT -5
Hi Matt, Thanks for bringing this up and good to see that you are on the ball already! The issue with players in Russia who's rights expire the same season that their contract is up has been brought up before, and we decided the following: If the player's contract expires the same year as their NHL player rights, and the player has not signed an extension with their Russian team at the date of the iNHL Entry Draft (around June 22nd each year), the player will be manually released from their Russian team, and the iNHL team holding the player rights will get the chance to sign that player in the file being released after the draft. However, if the player has signed an extension with their Russian team at that point, this signals their intention to continue playing in Russia, and the player will not be made available for their iNHL team to sign. I hope this clarifies things! Please reach out if you have further questions. Cheers Björn Thanks for the clarification regarding the Russian league players (KHL). I don't have the game open at the moment but there were several players whose rights expire in 2019 that I was looking at signing; I will have to look closer at them later. Are you sure about this rule? The Winnipeg Jets just signed Logan Stanley on 12/6/16, during the season, to an ELC. He was their first rounder in the 2016 NHL draft.
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Post by brob89 (NSH) on Dec 22, 2016 23:53:32 GMT -5
Are you sure about this rule? The Winnipeg Jets just signed Logan Stanley on 12/6/16, during the season, to an ELC. He was their first rounder in the 2016 NHL draft. You're correct. It's not a rule in real life; he's saying that the game only allows us to sign prospects in the offseason (post-draft).
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Post by Romagoth on Dec 23, 2016 0:01:52 GMT -5
Are you sure about this rule? The Winnipeg Jets just signed Logan Stanley on 12/6/16, during the season, to an ELC. He was their first rounder in the 2016 NHL draft. You're correct. It's not a rule in real life; he's saying that the game only allows us to sign prospects in the offseason (post-draft). Well, he actually said I can sign some of my prospects right now, but the ones who have a dollar amount after their rights expiration date only allow me to sign them in that June 23-August 31 window. I am fine with this if that is what the game restrictions are, but it just seems a little unclear right now is all.
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Post by bjernagris (PHI) on Dec 23, 2016 4:47:53 GMT -5
Yeah, sorry - I am not that familiar with the rNHL rules. You are right, it does happen. Thanks for pointing that out.
Regarding Stanley and others in the rNHL who sign ELCs during the season, it seems that they keep playing with their juniors team for the remainder of the current season (at least that's the case for Stanley), and that those contracts don't kick in until the following season. I suppose it would be OK to sign these guys if they would still be in the juniors, however there is no way, technically, to get these guys to sign with iNHL teams until Jun 23rd.
I guess this is one of the flaws/limitations of FHM2 - however, you will get the chance to sign these guys before their rights expire in the final sim before we go to Free Agency (the post-draft file, in-game date of Jun 23rd, file released on January 21st), and normally these guys do sign without problem. The only ones who might be problematic are Euro players and players in college, but all prospects you own with expiring rights in 2019 are in the CHL, North American minors, or in Russia. To my knowledge, CHL and North American minors players always sign without problem. Players in Russia should sign if we release their rights.
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Post by brentdog on Dec 24, 2016 4:23:36 GMT -5
Essentially the key points are this: players in college, the KHL / MHL or the other European leagues might not sign with you before their rights expire so there is an attendant risk with drafting them. I would rank them in order of risk as follows:
1) Russian Leagues - KHL, VHL, MHL 2) College 3) Other European Leagues
I've not yet seen a European league player refusing to sign altogether before their rights expire, but there have been instances of them opting to continue their development over there for a season or two before moving to North America.
In terms of being able to sign a player to an ELC during the regular season / playoffs, this may happen in real life but in practical terms within the game it makes no real difference as they don't wind up on your roster. So you just need to remember to sign up your prospecs during the offseason and we allow plenty of time for this with several offseason sims.
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