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Post by bjernagris (PHI) on Feb 28, 2016 18:04:51 GMT -5
Hello all GMs,
As has been touched upon before, the Exec Board has been discussing an iNHL League Expansion. We have a full league (30/30 GMs) and a waiting list of prospective GMs in the wings. The proposal for league expansion as it stands currently is to expand the Western Conference by two teams for the 2017/18 season, one team in each division. In other words, we would have a 32 team league, 16 teams in each conference, going into the 2017/18 season.
Prospective expansion cities are:
Las Vegas, Nevada - T-Mobile Arena - Capacity: 17,500 Portland, Oregon - Moda Center - Capacity: 18,280 Seattle, Washington - KeyArena - Capacity: 15,177 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan - SaskTel Centre - Capacity: 15,195
An expansion would require a majority of GMs supporting it before we move ahead. Please cast your vote and discuss any concerns below! We plan to make a decision based on the vote in the next few weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 18:21:16 GMT -5
I'd love a Portland Oregon Franchise
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Post by Chris on Feb 28, 2016 18:24:37 GMT -5
A no from me. I would like to keep the league as similar to the real NHL as possible.
Of course if/when expansion teams are confirmed in rNHL then we should replicate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 18:48:54 GMT -5
A no from me. I would like to keep the league as similar to the real NHL as possible. Of course if/when expansion teams are confirmed in rNHL then we should replicate. With the amount and types of trades that have gone on, any semblance of rNHL simulation is gone. I say go for it.
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Post by Justin on Feb 29, 2016 2:59:07 GMT -5
I'd want expansion but only if we can get guys that will stick around. We always have turn over so more teams mean more turn over. I don't like seeing a bunch of teams vacant. Ranek himself told me he cries himself to sleep every night because of it.
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Post by Joe on Feb 29, 2016 7:15:08 GMT -5
I guess I'm not understanding the rush to expand.
We've only been in operation for one season and we're still replacing a GM almost every week from the waiting list. Why not wait a few years to expand and establish a really consistent and experienced group of general managers and then consider expansion? Many of us have been in this league for a half a season or less.
As a GM of a team building towards being a contender, I have very little interest in sacrificing hard earned assets in an expansion draft at the end of year 2.
I also think, like the real expansion, any decision to expand should have to be approved by a 75% majority of teams. I don't think a simple majority is enough. Expansion will have a big effect on all teams.
Just my two cents worth.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 13:26:57 GMT -5
I voted no with similar thoughts to Joe. I think we have a solid, solid group of GMs, but this would be two more spots to fill if real life gets in the way and pulls any of the GMs away. Another thought would be - if FHM3 comes out, do we have risk that some GMs won't make the switch over (assuming the league does)? If we go another season or two more and we feel we have a group of 25+ guys that won't leave the league, then I'd be up for it. Until then, I think building history and rapport for the league makes sense before we take the jump.
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Post by brentdog on Feb 29, 2016 16:01:43 GMT -5
It's a no from me as well for now. As someone who's done a fair bit of the heavy lifting when it comes to recruitment I'm acutely conscious of the fact that we're still not entirely stable in terms of GM membership. If we get through this season with little turnover on that front then I'll change my mind, but when we're wondering what's happening with two important franchises in the run up to the draft then I don't think we're quite there yet.
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Post by jon on Feb 29, 2016 16:49:39 GMT -5
This poll kinda needs the "depends on the length of the waiting list come next playoffs" option
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Post by bjernagris (PHI) on Feb 29, 2016 17:38:16 GMT -5
Thank you for all your feedback everyone! I just want to clarify that if we don't have two people ready to take over when we approach July 1st, 2017, the expansion probably won't happen. As several of you point out, an expansion does require a stable group of GMs as well as people in the waiting pool who display signs of commitment if they would be let in.
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Post by Rob on Feb 29, 2016 18:05:01 GMT -5
It's great to see so many people with feedback! I'll be lying if i said I didn't want to see expansion, but as a lot of you have mentioned and have pointed out with your thoughts, hell I can't help but agree with all of yous that's for root'n toot'n sure! =) CyBjorn has mentioned that if we don't have enough people for an expansion and especially "commitment" then it would cause more problems than anything I'm afraid, at the moment we have a full 30/30 gm league who are all strong on sticking around, so hopefully the turnover rate extinguishes itself for a long while, I also wanna take this opportunity to welcome Tony as our new GM of Colorado, and good luck in the free free frenzy folks.
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Post by Beans (BOS) on Mar 1, 2016 12:01:21 GMT -5
I voted no as well because (a) I don't see the benefit of expansion and (b)we're probably going to have to expand at some point soonish anyway when the rNHL does. So let's cross the expansion bridge then because at least our franchises (save for the iWhalers, if you can call them a franchise) will matchup with the real thing.
I also think it's good we have a waiting list to join us. I'd like to see 30 GMs for at least a full season before the iNHL expands (unless of course the rNHL expands first).
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Post by mattgough60 on Mar 4, 2016 0:26:15 GMT -5
Quebecccc nordiquessss
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Post by bjernagris (PHI) on Mar 16, 2016 10:45:06 GMT -5
As it seems, the real NHL (rNHL) will take a decision on 2017/18 expansion by June ( LINK). As the iNHL is a semi-realistic league, our intent is to follow whatever happens in the rNHL as closely as possible. This goes for expansion as well. However, as we are 3 months away from a decision being taken in the rNHL, and will likely reach the end of the 2016/17 season around that point, we feel the need to communicate something already now in order to allow for GMs to plan accordingly: The iNHL Exec Board has tentatively decided in favor of a 2-team iNHL expansion prior to the 2017/18 season. This expansion is contingent on (1) iNHL GM stability and ability to fill two more teams with GMs when the time comes, and (2) the actual rNHL decision taken in June. Details of the expansion will be same / as similar as possible to what the rNHL decides to do. However, due to an in-game limitation (only possible to expand by two teams), if the rNHL decides to expand by only one team, the iNHL will still expand by two teams. Any questions, concerns or other feedback is welcome. Cheers, the iNHL Exec Board
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Post by Joe on Mar 16, 2016 12:38:53 GMT -5
Not to sound adversarial, but I'm wondering what was the point of the vote?
Joe GM Flames
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Post by brentdog on Mar 16, 2016 12:46:12 GMT -5
Events have moved on slightly since the vote was organised Joe, insofar as the NHL has announced their own vote on expansion.
Since we want to try and mirror the real NHL as much as possible we will likely expand if they choose to do so, but if - and only if - we are stable in terms of GM membership.
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Post by Joe on Mar 16, 2016 12:52:57 GMT -5
Kristian, I appreciate the desire to maintain realism, but at some point we are going to be so far ahead of the real NHL time-wise that it seems like a fool's errand. Why not forget what the NHL is doing and focus on developing a stable 30-team league that we can all enjoy.
I want to be clear that, theoretically, I'm not opposed to expansion at some point, I just think it's a little premature to be expanding after season number two. Why not give ourselves 8 or 10 seasons to allow guys to really build their organizations, cultivate a stable GM group and then consider expansion.
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Post by bjernagris (PHI) on Mar 16, 2016 14:31:23 GMT -5
Kristian, I appreciate the desire to maintain realism, but at some point we are going to be so far ahead of the real NHL time-wise that it seems like a fool's errand. Why not forget what the NHL is doing and focus on developing a stable 30-team league that we can all enjoy. I want to be clear that, theoretically, I'm not opposed to expansion at some point, I just think it's a little premature to be expanding after season number two. Why not give ourselves 8 or 10 seasons to allow guys to really build their organizations, cultivate a stable GM group and then consider expansion. Thank you Joe for voicing your opinion. Some comments: - The vote served as guidance, not as a decision - The situation changed when the rNHL announced that they are considering expansion - As Kristian points out, the expansion will only happen if we have a stable group of GMs at the end of the 2016/17 season, and if the rNHL actually decides to expand. We have 28-29 GMs who are currently committed, so filling those last couple of spots in the three months up to next season should hopefully not be a problem - Thinking ahead to the next edition of the game, if FHM3 does not allow us to carry over save files from FHM2, we would have to start with a 31/32-team league anyway. In that case, it would be good to have all GMs already recruited, so we can hit the ground running and the learning curve would be as flat as possible for everyone.
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Post by Ville (SJS) on May 1, 2016 14:36:57 GMT -5
As it seems, the real NHL (rNHL) will take a decision on 2017/18 expansion by June ( LINK). As the iNHL is a semi-realistic league, our intent is to follow whatever happens in the rNHL as closely as possible. This goes for expansion as well. However, as we are 3 months away from a decision being taken in the rNHL, and will likely reach the end of the 2016/17 season around that point, we feel the need to communicate something already now in order to allow for GMs to plan accordingly: The iNHL Exec Board has tentatively decided in favor of a 2-team iNHL expansion prior to the 2017/18 season. This expansion is contingent on (1) iNHL GM stability and ability to fill two more teams with GMs when the time comes, and (2) the actual rNHL decision taken in June. Details of the expansion will be same / as similar as possible to what the rNHL decides to do. However, due to an in-game limitation (only possible to expand by two teams), if the rNHL decides to expand by only one team, the iNHL will still expand by two teams. Any questions, concerns or other feedback is welcome. Cheers, the iNHL Exec Board I would definitely take control of a expansion team if given the chance. Count me in
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